{"id":11447,"date":"2021-04-23T14:16:22","date_gmt":"2021-04-23T18:16:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.presbyterianfoundation.org\/?p=11447"},"modified":"2025-07-18T10:34:24","modified_gmt":"2025-07-18T14:34:24","slug":"%ea%b2%bd%ec%9d%b4%eb%a1%9c%ec%9b%80-%ec%9c%a0%ec%a7%80","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.presbyterianfoundation.org\/ko\/resources\/news\/keep-a-sense-of-wonder\/","title":{"rendered":"'\uacbd\uc774\ub85c\uc6c0\uc744 \uc720\uc9c0\ud558\uc138\uc694'"},"content":{"rendered":"

With each of his guests on the podcast Leading Theologically<\/a>, the Rev. Dr. Lee Hinson-Hasty opens with the same question: what is making you come alive?<\/p>\n

On Wednesday, the Rev. Laura Mariko Cheifetz, a PC(USA) pastor and the assistant dean of Admissions, Vocation and Stewardship at the Vanderbilt University School of Divinity, had a ready answer.<\/p>\n

\"\"\u201cIt\u2019s about the flourishing of people in the fullness of who they are,\u201d she told Hinson-Hasty, senior director for Theological Funds Development for the Committee on Theological Education of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) and the Presbyterian Foundation<\/a>. \u201cThat\u2019s why I\u2019ve done so much work on racial justice. As a person of color I can perceive the ways lives are stunted by white supremacy,\u201d both people of color and white people.<\/p>\n

\u201cThat\u2019s why I like working with people in the discernment process,\u201d Cheifetz told Hinson-Hasty. \u201cWe all have something we are meant to do that makes us come alive.\u201d<\/p>\n

During the half-hour podcast, the two discussed \u201cRace in America: Christians Respond to the Crisis<\/a>,\u201d a book that Cheifetz has edited together with the Rev. David Maxwell, vice president at Presbyterian Publishing Corporation<\/a>. Originally published in 2016 as \u201cRace in a Post-Obama America,\u201d this updated edition offers contributions from a diverse group of pastors, professors, and activists on the history of racism, the issues of racism today, and action plans for moving toward antiracist work and racial justice. Updated material addresses police and police brutality, the ongoing work of Black Lives Matter, and Black protests. New chapters examine racism in relation to immigration and digital media.<\/p>\n

Cheifetz told Hinson-Hasty she\u2019s \u201cvery cisgender, and even though I am queer people often read me as straight. I am biracial Asian American and white Jewish, and I\u2019ve learned to be kind and diplomatic. If people can hear me \u2014 if I can help amplify points that people are unable to hear from other people \u2014 then it\u2019s something I can contribute.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cYou really are that bridge, a threshold kind of person,\u201d Hinson-Hasty responded.<\/p>\n

\u201cWhen someone brings something to my attention,\u201d Cheifetz told him, \u201cI can refocus and reintegrate new learnings to better nuance what I think I know, which is the task of a decent person and especially a decent minister.\u201d<\/p>\n

When Hinson-Hasty said the book is probably intended to be read \u201cwith others in small, trusted groups,\u201d Cheifetz said it was always Maxwell\u2019s intention that the work \u201cbe accessible to people. It\u2019s grounded in solid theory, and it escapes the binary thinking. Education does not solve problems of racism,\u201d but following the murder of George Floyd and police killings of other people of color including Breonna Taylor, \u201cpeople are now in a different space to acknowledge what has always been.\u201d<\/p>\n

For most people, antiracism work \u201cis not something that happens in the head,\u201d Hinson-Hasty said. \u201cIt is in the heart, hands and feet, in actions and in words. If you\u2019re really going to do the work, it\u2019s not just reading a book.\u201d<\/p>\n

That\u2019s true, Cheifetz said, but many people \u201cfeel trapped because they don\u2019t know enough. None of us does. We\u2019ve got to go out there and make mistakes. I\u2019ve had plenty of bad experiences, but they helped me learn and grow accountable in my relationships. There is always more to learn. You can read, do things, apologize and repair the damage if you make mistakes.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cIt seems worse just to sit there and not engage the work,\u201d she said. \u201cTo keep it all internal, I think you will miss out on the integration of the work.\u201d<\/p>\n

The work doesn\u2019t necessarily have to occur through protest, Hinson-Hasty said. \u201cIt\u2019s also your checkbook and your budget \u2014 how you spend your time and money.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s like [the variety of] spiritual gifts,\u201d Cheifetz said. \u201cSome absolutely need to be on the protest line. Others are really good at policy, and others can show up at City Hall and slam the budget plans for overfunding the police and underfunding social services. We all enter the work at different points. It\u2019s like the laborers in the vineyard<\/a>. We need those 5 o\u2019clock arrivals, too.\u201d<\/p>\n

During her charge to conclude the podcast, Cheifetz told viewers that \u201cEverything is terrible, like all the time. But everything is wonderful most of the time too. Keep a sense of wonder and be fueled by the understanding that too many people are robbed of that wonder.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cGet back up,\u201d she said. \u201cGo out there and do the work.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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