{"id":44644,"date":"2023-06-14T16:21:06","date_gmt":"2023-06-14T20:21:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.presbyterianfoundation.org\/?p=44644"},"modified":"2025-07-18T10:51:47","modified_gmt":"2025-07-18T14:51:47","slug":"despues-de-entrevistar-a-75-personas-para-la-emision-teologica-lider-el-presentador-da-la-vuelta-a-la-tortilla","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.presbyterianfoundation.org\/es\/resources\/news\/after-interviewing-75-people-for-the-leading-theologically-broadcast-the-host-turns-the-tables-on-himself\/","title":{"rendered":"Despu\u00e9s de entrevistar a 75 personas para la emisi\u00f3n \"Leading Theologically\", el presentador se da la vuelta a la tortilla"},"content":{"rendered":"

In a nifty bit of role reversal, the Rev. Dr. Lee Hinson-Hasty of the Presbyterian Foundation<\/a>, who has hosted 75 editions of the \u201cLeading Theologically\u201d broadcast, sat for an interview Thursday with the Rev. Dr. Teri Ott, editor and publisher of The Presbyterian Outlook<\/a>. Listen to their half-hour conversation here<\/a> or here<\/a>.<\/p>\n

\u201cI get the privilege of interviewing my good friend and colleague in ministry,\u201d Ott said. \u201cThis is the way it should be.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cThose who know Lee well know Lee is a true servant of Christ\u2019s church,\u201d said Ott, who got to know Hinson-Hasty when both were studying for their Master of Divinity degrees at Louisville Presbyterian Theological Seminary<\/a>. \u201cI also know Lee to be a lifelong learner and he is an incredibly generous friend.\u201d<\/p>\n

Ott asked Hinson-Hasty the famous question first asked by the Rev. Dr. Katie Geneva Cannon that Hinson-Hasty often asks his guests: What is the work your soul must have?<\/p>\n

The question sparked a fond memory for Hinson-Hasty. His wife, the Rev. Dr. Elizabeth Hinson-Hasty<\/a>, was set to defend her dissertation at Union Presbyterian Seminary when Cannon walked into the room, having recently joined the faculty. Cannon sat next to Lee Hinson-Hasty and rubbed her friend\u2019s back, as if to say, \u201cIt\u2019s going to be OK,\u201d Hinson-Hasty recalled. \u201cFor me, the work my soul must have is helping others live out their call \u2026 It\u2019s a real privilege to watch people live out their call in new ways, like the work you do at The Presbyterian Outlook,\u201d he told Ott.<\/p>\n

\u201cThat\u2019s how we knit together the body of Christ \u2014 one relationship at a time,\u201d he said. \u201cI get to do that, supporting future ministers with the Theological Education Fund<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n

He described his work at the Presbyterian Foundation<\/a> as \u201cinvesting in the future by investing in future leaders.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cI often say I am an advocate for others and what they do, and I want to find ways to support them and find others to support what matters to them,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n

\u201cThe theological perspective is often missing in our discourse,\u201d Ott said. \u201cKudos to you. It is work that matters.\u201d<\/p>\n

Hearing \u201creal stories\u201d of people\u2019s lives, \u201cpainful or joyful \u2014 those are the things that make me get up in the morning,\u201d Hinson-Hasty said. \u201cThose stories make me a better person and a better disciple and person of faith. They guide my own work and make me become a better listener.\u201d<\/p>\n

Among the skills he\u2019s learned while hosting the podcast is \u201ctrying to ask better questions,\u201d Hinson-Hasty said. \u201cThe better questions are the ones that really grab me. The show and these relationships are just a joy in my life.\u201d<\/p>\n

Several episodes have proven especially memorable, he said. Hinson-Hasty recalled a joint appearance early in the pandemic by Eric Wall and the then-president of Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary, Dr. Ted Wardlaw. At the end of the conversation, Wall said he\u2019d play something. \u201cJust sing it in your head,\u201d Wall suggested, then launched into \u201cBe Thou My Vision<\/a>.\u201d \u201cI still get chills just thinking about it,\u201d Hinson-Hasty said. \u201cIt touched me so much, providing that holy space.\u201d<\/p>\n

Dr. Brian Blount<\/a>, president of Union Presbyterian Seminary until the end of the month, talked about hope in the Book of Revelation, a position he staked out \u201cbecause I know how the book ends,\u201d Blount told Hinson-Hasty.<\/p>\n

\u201cApocalyptic books and movies are about despair. That\u2019s not the narrative in Revelation. It\u2019s a sea of hope,\u201d Hinson-Hasty said. \u201cAs people of faith, we are people of hope.\u201d<\/p>\n

Dr. William Yoo<\/a> of Columbia Theological Seminary, who wrote \u201cWhat Kind of Christianity: A History of Slavery and Anti-Black Racism in the Presbyterian Church<\/a>,\u201d \u201cquotes from the minutes of the General Assembly\u201d making the case in his book that many Presbyterians valued unity over justice for those who were enslaved prior to the Civil War. \u201cThose are not stories I learned in school,\u201d Hinson-Hasty said. \u201cIt\u2019s those sparks, and I have heard from listeners that it sparks something in them. People write to me, and it starts conversations that are definitely a gift to me.\u201d<\/p>\n

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The Rev. Dr. Teri Ott (Photo courtesy of Monmouth College)<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n

\u201cI want to talk about the fact that we are not a poor church,\u201d Ott told Hinson-Hasty. \u201cHow are we investing in pastoral leadership and what can we do to invest our wealth wisely and creatively?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cWherever you sit, there are things you can do,\u201d Hinson-Hasty said. \u201cEveryone has some sort of resource, financial or other. They can invest in something that matters to them.\u201d The one statistic that has haunted Hinson-Hasty of late is that there are now more pastoral positions open than people seeking them.<\/p>\n

\u201cI think leadership matters \u2014 good pastors, educators, mission co-workers, the right kind of college and seminary professors,\u201d he said. \u201cThe numbers aren\u2019t going the right way. We\u2019ve got some work to do,\u201d including mentoring people and helping them discover their call, he said.<\/p>\n

\u201cPeople don\u2019t want someone to be a savior, but to guide and walk with them and help them to ask better questions,\u201d he said. \u201cIt breaks my heart to see churches looking for years for pastoral leadership, or even just looking for someone to preach next week.\u201d<\/p>\n

When Ott asked Hinson-Hasty to give a charge and benediction \u2014 as Hinson-Hasty has done so many times before of his guests \u2014 here\u2019s what he offered to viewers:<\/p>\n

\u201cRemember you\u2019re not alone. Although the world keeps telling you to be scared and things are scary and they\u2019re real and there\u2019s suffering, know we\u2019re in a sea of hope. On that sea of hope we\u2019re in a boat and we\u2019re all together. We\u2019re connected, and if you need someone, reach out and get to know them, ask them about their story of faith, and be renewed. Share your own [story of faith].<\/p>\n

\u201cKnow the one who created us, the one who continues to create among us and empower creativity and innovation is with us; the one who redeemed us, forgives us and loves us is with us; and the one who is Spirit among us and gives us our very next breath and God\u2019s promise of love and truth for the days and weeks and months to come, may that be for you and all your kin. Amen.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cLeading Theologically\u201d will be on hiatus this summer.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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